Hornworms vs. Silkworms: A Keeper's Honest Comparison for Reptiles
I keep both hornworms and silkworms in rotation year-round, and the question I get more than any other is some version of "which one is better?" The honest answer is that it's the wrong question. These two soft-bodied feeders look superficially similar — fat, squishy, gentle on a reptile's gut — but they do almost opposite jobs. One is a hydration tool you reach for in specific moments; the other is a genuine protein feeder you can lean on regularly. Confuse the two and you'll either bloat an animal on water or skip a quietly excellent staple.
This is the full breakdown: what each one actually is, where the numbers really land (including the nutrition claims other guides get backwards), how they behave in front of an animal, how to keep them alive without losing half the cup, what they cost in practice, and — most importantly — the safety facts that decide whether a hornworm is a treat or a trip to the vet. Read it once, and you'll know exactly which cup to open and when.
Where each feeder fits in a reptile's diet
Before the head-to-head, the frame that makes everything else make sense: no soft worm is a complete diet by itself. Reptiles fall into three broad camps — herbivores that live on greens, flowers, and fruit; omnivores that need a mix of plants and animal protein; and carnivores that run almost entirely on prey. Hornworms and silkworms matter for the omnivores and insectivores, where they contribute protein, moisture, and minerals to a rotation.
The reason rotation matters isn't variety for its own sake. Every feeder insect has a weakness — too much fat, too little calcium, too much water, a hard shell — and the way you cover those weaknesses is by not relying on any single one. A staple feeder (a roach, a cricket) forms the backbone; hornworms and silkworms are two of the best supporting players you can add to it. Get that hierarchy right and the rest of this guide is just about using each one well.
Two numbers drive almost every feeding decision: fat, because excess fat drives obesity and fatty-liver disease, and the calcium-to-phosphorus ratio, because getting it wrong drives metabolic bone disease (MBD), the single most common nutritional disease in captive reptiles. The Merck Veterinary Manual's guidance on nutrition in reptiles is blunt about it: insectivorous reptiles need a dietary calcium-to-phosphorus ratio of roughly 1.5:1 to 2:1, and almost no feeder insect delivers that on its own. Hold onto that fact — it's the one that corrects the most common myth about these two worms, and I'll come back to it.
What hornworms actually are
Hornworms sold as feeders are the larvae of Manduca sexta, the tobacco hawk moth (sometimes called the Carolina sphinx moth), native across much of North and Central America. The feeder trade raises them in clean cups on a prepared gel diet, and that distinction — captive-raised on safe chow versus wild on garden plants — is the whole ballgame, which I'll cover in the safety section.
They're unmistakable: a smooth, plump, bright blue-green body with diagonal pale stripes down the sides and a soft, harmless "horn" at the tail end that gives them their name. Despite the look, the horn doesn't sting, bite, or do anything at all. What's genuinely remarkable is how fast they grow. Under warm conditions a hornworm can go from a few millimeters to up to four inches long in about a week, gaining mass at a rate almost no other feeder matches. That growth rate is simultaneously their best feature and their biggest headache.
Nutritionally, the defining trait of a hornworm is water. They run roughly 85% moisture — they are, functionally, a hydration delivery system shaped like a caterpillar. That makes them outstanding for getting fluids into an animal, and almost useless as a protein source: on a fresh-weight basis they're only around 9% protein and quite low in fat. The takeaway writes itself — a hornworm is a treat and a hydration tool, not something an animal can live on.
If you want to keep hornworms on hand, the practical reality is that you order them in the size you need and use them before they balloon. When I'm stocking up, I buy captive-raised hornworms from All Angles Creatures in the size band that matches the animals I'm feeding that week, precisely because their growth rate means a too-small cup becomes a too-big cup faster than you'd believe.
What silkworms actually are
Silkworms are the larvae of Bombyx mori, the domestic silk moth — an insect humans have farmed for thousands of years for silk, and one so thoroughly domesticated it no longer exists in the wild. As feeders, that long history of cultivation is a quiet advantage: they're predictable, clean, and bred in controlled conditions, which means low parasite and pesticide risk compared with anything wild-caught.
In the wild — or rather, in cultivation — silkworms are obligate specialists: they eat mulberry leaves, and essentially nothing else. That single-food diet is part of what makes them such a clean, nutrient-dense feeder. You can rear them on fresh mulberry leaves if you have a tree, but most keepers use prepared mulberry chow (a powdered, mulberry-based diet you mix and set), which is far more practical and available year-round.
Compared to a hornworm, a silkworm is a real protein feeder. They're well-regarded across the hobby for a reason: soft-bodied and easy to digest, low in fat, with a respectable protein content and a decent calcium level — better than many feeders, though, as I'll explain, still not the calcium hero some guides claim. They're moist (around 75–80% water), so they help with hydration too, just not to the dramatic degree hornworms do. And they grow slowly, topping out around one to two inches over a larval stage of roughly three to four weeks, which makes them far easier to keep at a usable size than the rocket-growth hornworm.
If hornworms are the hydration specialist, silkworms are the all-rounder — the soft feeder you can actually work into a regular rotation rather than saving for special occasions.
The nutrition comparison, done honestly
This is where most hornworm-vs-silkworm guides go wrong, including the one I rebuilt this from, so I want to be careful and precise.
The protein numbers, and the trap in them
You'll see silkworms quoted at "around 63% protein" and hornworms at "around 9% protein," and conclude silkworms have seven times the protein. That's misleading because it's comparing two different measuring sticks. The silkworm figure is on a dry-matter basis (water removed); the hornworm figure is on a fresh, as-fed basis (the worm as the animal actually eats it, water and all). You can't compare them directly.
On a like-for-like, as-fed basis — the basis that matters, because your reptile eats the whole wet worm — both are fairly modest, but silkworms come out meaningfully higher in protein than hornworms. Silkworms hold more dry matter and more protein per gram of actual worm; hornworms are mostly water, so even though their dry matter is protein-rich in percentage terms, there's so little dry matter that the as-fed protein lands low. The practical conclusion survives either way: silkworms are the better protein feeder, hornworms are not a protein feeder at all. Just don't repeat the "63% vs 9%" line as if it's a fair fight — it isn't.
Fat
Both are lean, which is part of why both are gentle, non-fattening feeders — a real contrast with waxworms or superworms. Silkworms are notably low in fat, which is exactly what you want in a feeder you'll use regularly, especially for animals prone to obesity. Hornworms are also low in fat. Neither is going to pack weight onto an animal the way a fatty feeder does, and that's a point in both their favors.
Moisture
This is the cleanest difference between them. Hornworms are roughly 85% water; silkworms around 75–80%. Both are hydrating, but hornworms are exceptional at it. For a chameleon that won't drink from a bowl, a desert species that's been kept a touch too dry, or any animal that's dehydrated, constipated, or impacted, a hornworm or two is one of the gentlest ways to push fluids. The flip side: that much water means an animal can fill up on a hornworm without getting much actual nourishment, which is exactly why it's a treat and not a meal.
Calcium and phosphorus — the myth worth killing
Here's the claim you'll see everywhere, including in the source article I rebuilt: that hornworms have a "high" or "favorable" calcium-to-phosphorus ratio, or that silkworms have a "rich" Ca:P ratio. This is the part to get right, because it's mostly wrong.
The reality: nearly every commonly used feeder insect is phosphorus-heavy — they contain more phosphorus than calcium, the inverse of the roughly 2:1 calcium-to-phosphorus ratio reptiles actually need. Hornworms are phosphorus-heavy. Silkworms, while they carry more calcium than many feeders and are genuinely one of the better options on this axis, are still not at the 2:1 target reptiles require. (The one routine exception keepers talk about is black soldier fly larvae, which actually do carry a calcium-favorable ratio — neither of these worms is that exception.)
What this means in practice is simple and non-negotiable: you dust both of them with calcium. A light calcium dusting — with vitamin D3 on whatever schedule your species and lighting setup call for — corrects the imbalance and prevents MBD. Don't let a feeder's reputation as "soft and healthy" trick you into skipping supplementation. Soft and digestible is not the same as calcium-balanced. Silkworms get you closer to the target than hornworms do, but neither gets you there alone.
The comparison table
Treat these as approximate, as-fed figures — real values shift with diet, life stage, and source — but the relationships are what should drive your decisions, and the relationships are reliable:
| Trait | Hornworm (Manduca sexta) | Silkworm (Bombyx mori) |
|---|---|---|
| Protein (as-fed) | Low (~9%) | Higher — the better protein feeder |
| Fat | Low (~3%) | Low |
| Moisture | Very high (~85%) | High (~75–80%) |
| Calcium : phosphorus | Phosphorus-heavy — dust with calcium | Better than most, but still dust |
| Body / digestibility | Very soft, easy to digest | Soft, easy to digest |
| Max size | Up to ~4 in, very fast growth | ~1–2 in, slow growth |
| Usable feeding window | Short (~1–2 weeks) | Longer (~3–4 weeks) |
| Diet to maintain | Prepared hornworm chow | Mulberry leaves / mulberry chow |
| Cost | Cheaper per cup | More expensive |
| Best role | Hydration / occasional treat | Soft protein feeder for regular rotation |
The one-line version: hornworms for hydration and the occasional treat, silkworms for soft, lean, regular protein — and dust both.
How reptiles actually react to each
Nutrition only matters if the animal eats it, and the two worms trigger very different feeding responses.
Hornworms: motion and drama
Hornworms are showy. They're big, vivid green, and they wriggle, and that combination lights up visual hunters — bearded dragons, chameleons, many geckos, anything wired to chase and strike. The movement mimics natural prey and pulls a strong feeding response, which makes hornworms a fantastic tool for tempting a finicky eater or an animal coming back from illness. The cautions are the obvious ones: because they're so watery, some animals will gorge on them without ever feeling truly fed, and because they get big, a hornworm that looks exciting to a large dragon can look intimidating — or be an outright choking hazard — to a small or juvenile reptile.
Silkworms: slow and steady
Silkworms are mellow. They move slowly, they're a muted beige-white, and they don't put on a show. That means they sometimes draw less initial interest from animals that key on movement — but it also makes them ideal for calmer, less reactive feeders (turtles, slower lizards, mellow species) and for animals you want on a steady, habitual feeding pattern rather than a frenzy. Their soft-yet-firm texture is easy to grasp and chew, and animals that learn to take silkworms tend to take them reliably, which is exactly what you want from a routine feeder. The mild flavor and predictable handling make them, in my experience, the easier of the two to build into a consistent diet.
If you're transitioning an animal between the two, expect some variation in enthusiasm — many keepers (myself included) rotate both precisely because the contrast keeps animals engaged and covers different nutritional and behavioral bases.
Growth and size — the factor that quietly decides everything
I'd argue growth rate is the single most underrated difference between these feeders, because it dictates how you buy, store, and use them.
Hornworms grow explosively. Up to four inches in roughly a week under warm conditions, doubling in size in just a few days at the fast part of the curve. For a big reptile that's a feature — one mature hornworm is a substantial, hydrating mouthful. For a small or juvenile animal it's a liability: a hornworm that's perfectly sized on Monday can be a hazard by Thursday. The discipline this forces is real — you order hornworms close to the size you need, keep them cool to slow the growth, and use them promptly rather than stockpiling.
Silkworms grow slowly, topping out around one to two inches over three to four weeks. That gives you a far wider, more forgiving window to use a batch, and makes them much better suited to reptiles with smaller mouths or to keepers who'd rather not race the clock. You can hold silkworms at a usable size for the better part of their larval stage without the constant size management hornworms demand.
There's a nutrient wrinkle too: younger, smaller worms of either species carry proportionally more water (great for hydration, lower in substance), while larger ones offer more dry matter and energy. So size isn't only about what fits the mouth — it nudges the nutritional payload too.
Keeping each one alive: care and maintenance
Both are short-term feeders you're maintaining for days to weeks, not breeding colonies — but a little care keeps you from throwing away half the cup.
Hornworm care
Hornworms are genuinely low-effort, with one big caveat (growth) and one common piece of dangerously wrong advice I want to correct.
- Temperature. If you want them to grow (say, to size up small ones), keep them warm — around 75–82°F. If you want to slow growth to extend your feeding window, keep them at cool room temperature instead. But do not refrigerate them. You'll see guides — including the source I rebuilt — say to store hornworms at 40–50°F to slow growth. That's a good way to kill them. Manduca sexta is a warm-climate insect; sustained temperatures in the 40s and low 50s chill and kill them, and you'll open a cup of mush. The right move is cool room temp (around 55–60°F on the low end if you have a naturally cool spot), never the fridge.
- Housing. They come in (and are easiest kept in) ventilated cups with the chow set in the bottom or lid. Don't over-handle them; their skin is delicate.
- Diet. Captive hornworms eat a prepared hornworm chow — a gelled, wheat-germ-based diet formulated to be safe and nutritious. This is not optional and not substitutable with random plants (see the safety section). Keep an eye out for mold on the chow and pull anything spoiled.
- Waste. They're tidy relative to other feeders, but remove fouled chow and frass so the cup stays clean.
Silkworm care
Silkworms are a touch more hands-on but very manageable.
- Temperature. They do best warm and stable, around 78–82°F. Stable matters — swings and stagnant, humid air invite the diseases silkworm cultures are prone to.
- Housing. Give them space and airflow; overcrowding in a stuffy container is the fastest way to lose a batch. A ventilated container with room to spread out beats a packed cup.
- Diet. Mulberry leaves or mulberry chow, kept fresh. The logistical catch is sourcing mulberry — chow solves it for most people, but it's a real consideration if you don't have a tree.
- Hygiene. Silkworms produce waste faster than hornworms and are sensitive to dirty conditions, so clean more diligently — remove frass and old food regularly, keep hands and tools clean, and don't let the substrate go sour.
The care contrast in one line
Hornworms win on simplicity of food (chow only) and tidiness but force you to race their growth; silkworms give you a longer, calmer window but ask for cleaner conditions and mulberry sourcing. Neither is hard — they just fail in different ways if you neglect them.
Cost: what you actually pay
Pricing shifts by supplier, season, and size, but the relationship is consistent: hornworms are cheaper up front, silkworms cost more. A cup of hornworms typically runs noticeably less than the equivalent quantity of silkworms.
But "cheaper" deserves an asterisk. Because hornworms grow so fast, you can lose value to worms that outgrow your animal before you feed them off — that's real money in the trash. Silkworms cost more but their slow growth and wider feeding window mean less waste, and their higher protein density means you're paying for more actual nutrition per worm, not mostly water.
So the true cost comparison depends on your animal and your habits. Feeding a large reptile that can take big hornworms quickly? Hornworms are economical. Feeding a small animal a few worms at a time over a couple of weeks? Silkworms' longevity may make them the better value despite the higher sticker price. Factor in both the price and the waste, not just the price.
Sustainability and availability
Both are farmed feeders with modest footprints, but they differ.
Hornworms are bred in controlled facilities on prepared diet, grow fast, and produce little waste during rearing — efficient on paper. Their availability can swing with breeding cycles and demand. They're not native everywhere they're sold, which is part of why responsible keepers never release feeders and never collect wild ones.
Silkworms ride on thousands of years of sericulture infrastructure, which makes them broadly and reliably available year-round. The environmental cost is mulberry cultivation, which is water-hungry, but the worms themselves produce minimal byproduct and are fully biodegradable. For most keepers, silkworms are the easier of the two to source consistently.
Either way, the responsible move is the same: buy captive-bred feeders from suppliers who keep clean cultures, and never release or wild-collect.
Safety: the section that actually matters
Everything above is optimization. This is the part that prevents harm — and it's where the biggest real-world mistakes happen.
Never feed wild-caught hornworms
This is the most important sentence in the guide. The bright green caterpillars chewing your tomato and tobacco plants are the same species — or a close, equally dangerous relative (the tomato hornworm, Manduca quinquemaculata) — sold as feeders. Do not feed them to your reptile.
In the wild, hornworms feed on plants in the nightshade family — tomato, tobacco, potato, pepper foliage — which contain alkaloids and other toxic compounds. Hornworms sequester those plant toxins in their bodies. A feeder hornworm is safe specifically because it was raised in captivity on a prepared, non-toxic chow and has never touched a nightshade plant. A garden hornworm is loaded with exactly the compounds you don't want going into your animal. Looks identical, completely different chemistry. Only ever feed captive-raised hornworms grown on prepared diet — full stop. The same wild-caught warning applies to insects generally: wild bugs can carry pesticides, parasites, and pathogens, but with hornworms the plant-toxin risk makes it categorically more dangerous.
Size the feeder correctly
The universal rule across the hobby: a feeder should be no larger than the space between the reptile's eyes. Oversized prey is a choking and impaction risk. This bites hardest with hornworms because of their growth rate — re-check size every time you feed, because the worm that fit last week may not fit now.
Gut-load before feeding
Both worms are what they eat, one step removed. Hornworms on their chow and silkworms on mulberry are already eating a decent diet, but feeding them well right up until you offer them — that's gut-loading — maximizes what reaches your animal. Their existing diets do a lot of this work for you, which is part of these worms' appeal.
Dust with calcium
Covered above, but it belongs on the safety list: both are phosphorus-heavy, so dust with calcium (plus D3 per your species) to head off metabolic bone disease. Non-negotiable.
Hygiene and moderation
Wash your hands after handling feeders and use clean utensils — basic hygiene that keeps bacteria off both you and your reptile. And feed both in moderation: hornworms because too much water can throw off an animal's balance and displace real nutrition, silkworms because even a great feeder shouldn't crowd out a varied diet. Soft worms supplement a staple; they don't replace one.
Watch the animal
After introducing either worm, watch for any sign of digestive upset or behavior change, and adjust — or call an exotics vet — if something looks off. Individual animals vary, and the animal's response is the final word on whether a feeder belongs in its diet.
Feeding them off, by animal
Care guides love to stay vague about quantities. Here's how I actually use these two worms across the animals that eat them. The constant rules underneath all of it: size to no wider than the space between the eyes, dust with calcium, and treat both as supplements on top of a staple — never the whole diet.
- Chameleons. This is hornworms' home turf. Chameleons are notoriously prone to dehydration and often won't drink from standing water, so a hornworm or two is one of the gentlest ways to get fluids in — and the wriggling green body triggers a strong feeding strike from a visual hunter that's wired to ambush moving prey. I'll offer a hornworm sized to the chameleon's mouth a couple of times a week as part of a varied diet, leaning on them more when an animal looks dry or is shedding. Silkworms also go over well with chameleons and add the protein hornworms can't; rotating both is close to ideal for the species.
- Bearded dragons. Neither is a staple here — a beardie's base is a roach or cricket plus greens. Silkworms make an excellent regular supplement: lean protein, soft, and easy on the gut, a few times a week. Hornworms are the treat and the hydration tool — great for a dragon that's constipated, dehydrated, or going off food, and great for tempting a sulky eater because of the movement. Watch portion size on hornworms with juveniles especially, since a fast-growing worm can outgrow a young dragon's safe size in days.
- Leopard geckos. Small to medium worms only, sized conservatively. Both are soft and easy to digest, which suits a leo well, but leopard geckos put on weight easily, so I use these as variety and hydration rather than daily fare — a couple of appropriately sized silkworms or a single small hornworm as a treat, dusted with calcium, slotted into a roach-and-cricket base.
- Crested and other arboreal geckos. For animals already on a complete meal-replacement diet, both worms are enrichment and a protein/hydration top-up rather than a necessity. Offer small ones, occasionally, dusted. A small silkworm is a tidy, soft addition; a small hornworm is a hydrating novelty.
- Frogs, toads, and other amphibians. Soft-bodied worms are gentle on amphibian digestion, and the movement of a hornworm draws a fast feeding response. Watch body condition closely — many amphibians will happily overeat — and use both in moderation as part of a varied diet.
- Turtles and slower feeders. This is where silkworms' calm temperament pays off. Animals that aren't fast, reactive hunters often take a slow-moving silkworm more readily than a frantic feeder, and the soft body is easy to manage. A fast-fleeing prey item is wasted on a deliberate eater; a silkworm sits there and gets eaten.
The throughline: reach for hornworms when the goal is hydration or tempting an animal to eat, and silkworms when the goal is gentle, regular protein. Match the worm's behavior to the animal's hunting style and you'll get far better acceptance from both.
Growing them out and raising them
Most keepers buy these worms and feed them off within days to weeks, but it's worth understanding the rearing side, because it explains the care quirks.
Hornworms are almost always bought partway through the larval stage in a cup with chow already in it. If you want to size them up — say you bought smalls and need them bigger — just keep them warm (mid-to-high 70s°F) and they'll do the rest, fast. If you want to hold them small, keep them cool (cool room temperature, not the fridge) to slow the metabolism. You generally won't be completing their life cycle at home; the point is to use the larvae before they pupate. If a hornworm stops eating, darkens, and starts wandering or burrowing, it's preparing to pupate into a moth and is past its useful feeder window.
Silkworms are more amenable to home rearing, which is why some keepers raise them from eggs. The cycle: eggs hatch into tiny larvae, which you raise on mulberry leaves or chow through several molts over three to four weeks, growing slowly and predictably. The keys to not losing a batch are warmth (around 78–82°F), cleanliness (they're sensitive to dirty, damp, crowded conditions and to mold on the chow), and airflow. If you're raising them, give them progressively more space as they grow and stay on top of waste removal. Left to complete the cycle, larvae spin cocoons and emerge as flightless white moths that mate and lay the next generation — but for feeder purposes you're using the larvae well before then.
Either way, the practical lesson for a feeder keeper is the same as the care section: hornworms force you to manage speed, silkworms force you to manage cleanliness.
Troubleshooting common problems
A few issues come up again and again with these two feeders:
- "My hornworms turned to mush / died." Almost always cold. They were refrigerated or left somewhere in the 40s–low 50s°F. Keep them at cool-to-warm room temperature, never the fridge. Mush can also mean a crushed or moldy cup — check the chow.
- "My hornworms got huge overnight." Working as designed. Keep them cooler to slow growth and order them smaller next time, sized to how fast you'll use them.
- "My silkworms are dying off in the container." Usually dirty or stagnant conditions: too crowded, too damp, mold on the chow, or poor airflow. Spread them out, clean more often, refresh the chow, and improve ventilation. Silkworm cultures are genuinely sensitive to hygiene.
- "My reptile ignores the silkworms." Their slow movement doesn't trigger movement-keyed hunters. Try offering by hand or tongs with a little wiggle, or pair them with a more active feeder in the same session to spark interest. Some animals simply take a few exposures to accept a new feeder.
- "My reptile gorged on hornworms and then seemed off / runny stool." Too much water. Hornworms are a treat for a reason — dial them back and rebalance toward staple feeders, and if it persists, see an exotics vet.
- "Am I sure these are safe?" If you bought captive-raised feeders on prepared diet, yes. If there's any chance a hornworm came off a garden plant, throw it out — see the safety section. When in doubt, don't feed it.
So which should you choose?
The decision is really a series of small ones:
- Need hydration? Hornworms, every time. A dehydrated chameleon, a constipated or lightly impacted animal, a desert species kept a touch dry, or any reptile that won't drink from standing water — this is what hornworms are for. Use them as a targeted tool, a few at a time.
- Want a soft feeder you can use regularly? Silkworms. Lean, protein-respectable, easy to digest, gentle on juveniles and sensitive guts, and forgiving to keep. They're the better routine supplement of the two.
- Feeding a big, enthusiastic hunter? Hornworms' size and drama make them an exciting, hydrating treat that triggers a strong feeding response — just mind the growth and the size limit.
- Feeding a small, juvenile, or calm animal? Silkworms' small size, slow growth, and soft texture make them the safer, steadier pick.
- Budget-conscious and feeding fast? Hornworms are cheaper up front and economical if you use them before they outgrow the animal.
- Hate waste and feed slowly? Silkworms' longevity may make them the better value despite costing more.
And the meta-answer: you don't have to choose. The keepers who get the best results use both — silkworms as a regular soft-protein supplement on top of a proper staple, hornworms as an occasional hydration treat and appetite-tempter. Two tools, two jobs. Build your animal's diet on a real staple, add these two for what each does best, dust everything with calcium, and you've covered far more nutritional ground than any single feeder could.
The short version
Hornworms are a hydration feeder: ~85% water, low protein, very soft, fast-growing, cheaper — a treat and a fluid-delivery tool, never a staple, and never, ever wild-caught. Silkworms are a soft protein feeder: higher protein than hornworms, low fat, decent (not perfect) calcium, slow-growing, more expensive but longer-lasting — the better of the two for regular rotation. Both are phosphorus-heavy, so dust both with calcium, size both to no wider than the space between the animal's eyes, and use both to supplement a real staple rather than replace it. Keep hornworms cool but never refrigerated; keep silkworms warm, clean, and fed on mulberry. Do that and you've got two of the best supporting feeders in the hobby working exactly as they should.
Building out a feeder rotation? A soft feeder like these is best paired with a real staple — see my complete playbook on keeping discoid roaches, or browse the full feeder insect care library for the rest of the lineup.